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Benjamin Odell's avatar

Rebecca— I appreciate that you read my article on film schools.I’m a big fan of yours. We crossed paths years ago on Andrés Levin’s movie, and I remember thinking what a sharp, thoughtful producer you are.

I love that your response sparks this kind of debate—it’s exactly the conversation we should be having. At my core, I’m with you: I’m a filmmaker who loves movies. Two years ago, I was lucky enough to take a film to Sundance that won Best of Fest and went on to become Mexico’s highest-grossing drama. More importantly, it created real conversation around education reform. If I could live only in that space—making films with cultural and social impact—I would. That’s the dream.

But I also think it’s essential that film schools balance that heart with the realities of the marketplace. In my Columbia class, most of us walked away with $100K–$200K in debt. For us, finding a path to success wasn’t abstract—it was survival. And 80% of those students did not even build a career. they ended up doing other things. That’s why I believe this is an AND conversation. Teach the art and the commerce. Encourage storytelling and help students understand how audiences and consumer behavior are changing.

The contraction of film and TV makes this even more urgent. The creator universe is already becoming the best feeder and testing ground for storytellers. Ignoring that reality doesn’t just miss an opportunity—it risks leaving students unprepared. I believe programs should allow for choice: students who want to live purely in the art can. But schools also have a responsibility to equip those who need a path forward to sustain themselves, to build a career they can live from.

I see your point, and I agree with the heart of it. But for me, the commerce side isn’t the enemy of art—it’s the structure that allows art to thrive. I’d love to keep this debate going because it feels like the most important one for film education right now. Let's keep talking!!! xBen

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Billy Kent's avatar

Thank you for sharing this. I agree wholeheartedly — I support human development in all its forms, and this piece beautifully captures the deeper purpose of arts education. Congratulations on your new role — AFI is lucky to have you. Looking forward to seeing what you build there.

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